Sternenkino 22.06.2007, 13:39 Uhr 0 0

Mail from Tamil Nadu

Wenn einem einfach so ein Inder schreibt und über Religionen, Intelligenz, die Liebe, Geld, Isaac Newtons Kochkünste und den Menschen spricht...

*srinisanzo:
hi
fritzakarlo:
hi
srinisanzo:
hi how r u
srinisanzo:
i am srini from india
srinisanzo:
and ur from
fritzakarlo:
well, not that good, my stomach hurts, so i couldn't go to school today, iam from germany
fritzakarlo:
nothern germany very close to northsea
srinisanzo:
ok
srinisanzo:
so what u ate today
srinisanzo:
and do u knw why ur stomach hurts
fritzakarlo:
breakfast, bread and nutella (kind of chocolate cream) and tea
fritzakarlo:
no i don't maybe its just because of unhealthy lifestyle
srinisanzo:
ya what u say is true
srinisanzo:
if u dont eat good food and go for junk foods
srinisanzo:
u ll get diseases
fritzakarlo:
maybe its a strange question but what is life like in india?
srinisanzo:
in india my life is great
fritzakarlo:
where are you from, india is huge
srinisanzo:
and the climate is also cool now
srinisanzo:
i am from tamil nadu
srinisanzo:
and i live n chennai
fritzakarlo:
oh i have to look where that is
srinisanzo:
yep
fritzakarlo:
oh isn't it quit hot down there?
srinisanzo:
yes
srinisanzo:
for past few weeks its so hot
srinisanzo:
but now its raining
srinisanzo:
and the climate is so cool
fritzakarlo:
can you feel the global warming?
srinisanzo:
ya do u knw abt global warming
fritzakarlo:
here it's extremly hot for our cicumstances, last month were 10° C more than normal
srinisanzo:
thats bad
srinisanzo:
here in india also like that
srinisanzo:
and some people use to die bc of this hot climate
fritzakarlo:
there was the g8 meeting in germany few weeks ago
srinisanzo:
wow and what is that all abt
fritzakarlo:
they dicussed about the co2 problem and climate problems and so on, but i think the people who demonstrated (often with violance) got more attention than bush an merkel and putin and so
fritzakarlo:
india was there to, but couldn't discuss with them, there was just one guy to sign what they decided, in my eyes thats a heavy fault in the system
fritzakarlo:
8 people decide about a billion
srinisanzo:
ya what u say is true
fritzakarlo:
but beside, i like india
srinisanzo:
the people who live in high society now a days deside abt the world
srinisanzo:
now a days people dont care abt their environment
srinisanzo:
they just want to get money
fritzakarlo:
one of my favorit writers here in germany, hermann hesse, wrote about siddharta
fritzakarlo:
yes that's true, unbelievable to me, money has the most power of all things, in germany money also decides about school live, there's gonna be a fatal schoolsystem change in two years, which will make thing ao lot worse, but they justify that with money
srinisanzo:
ya now a days without money one cant surview in this world
srinisanzo:
even the love use to be gained only if u have money
srinisanzo:
otherwise the one love will also dont look at u
fritzakarlo:
oh interesting, thats what most parts of hermann hesses siddharta is about, do you know that name?
fritzakarlo:
because it tkaes place in india
srinisanzo:
no i dont knw abt that
srinisanzo:
but i like to knw if u like to explain me
srinisanzo:
bc i love to knw things from my friends
fritzakarlo:
siddharta is the real name of buddha, he was a son of a rich indian family but wasn't interessted in money or luxury so he joined a gropu of rover in the wood, who had learned to live without money or foot, they just travel around begging for water in the villages
fritzakarlo:
then one day he comes a a bigger city and falls in love with a woman, shes a prostitude lives him only when he pays
fritzakarlo:
so he gets a job and learns the art of oft (kamasutra) from this prostitude
fritzakarlo:
but the more he likes it, the more money he needs, and one day he beginns to hate money and all that luxury he got and leaves the city
fritzakarlo:
the next years he lives as an begging travaler again with a very close friend, but one day they meet a priest
fritzakarlo:
some kind of buddhistic monk, in the beginnings of buddhism
fritzakarlo:
siddhartas friend joins this priest who wants to form a group of people that believe in him and his religion
fritzakarlo:
but siddharta thinks that no one should live under the command of the point of view of someone else, so he desides to travel on
fritzakarlo:
and in the end, when he is very old, he settles down by a river, where a fairman lives, which he got to know while his traveling, and then the prostitude wants to pass the river, notices him and calls him the one and only buddha
fritzakarlo:
and so the buddhism is formed (in hermann hesses (germany author) opinion)
fritzakarlo:
i guess the story which the buddhist believein is a bit different
fritzakarlo:
are you buddhist?
srinisanzo:
actually i dont believe in religion
srinisanzo:
i am in HINDU
srinisanzo:
bc accroding to me what it be all religion say that love each other
fritzakarlo:
oh ok, i don't know much about that, in school we have to chose between religion an philosophy, and because iam not beliving in religion to, i chose philosophy
srinisanzo:
but all these fools not following that one
srinisanzo:
instead they fight and kill peopole bc of this religion
srinisanzo:
great so one day u ll become a philosopher
fritzakarlo:
well iam not bad in that course but thats not i want to do
fritzakarlo:
iam more interessted in arts
srinisanzo:
then u better that that one instead of philosophy
fritzakarlo:
what are you doing? no more school with 22 years?
srinisanzo:
i finished my post graduate in microbiology
srinisanzo:
and i am waiting for my results to get the job
fritzakarlo:
oh i know about microbiology less than a fish about smokinf
fritzakarlo:
smoking
fritzakarlo:
i hated my biologie teacher
srinisanzo:
why she never use to explain biology with board
fritzakarlo:
how do you mean with board?
srinisanzo:
black board
fritzakarlo:
to write on it?
srinisanzo:
yes
fritzakarlo:
or draw?
fritzakarlo:
ok
srinisanzo:
i mean draw and also some flow chart
srinisanzo:
yes
fritzakarlo:
i don't know but i think there something magic in microbiology, hidden from me maybe but interesting and mystical, how can something dead like water can come alive
srinisanzo:
water never use todie
srinisanzo:
how can u expect water to become die
srinisanzo:
water is like energy
srinisanzo:
it can convert into one form into another
srinisanzo:
like liquid solid and gas
srinisanzo:
but i also hate my lectures here
srinisanzo:
bc they r not skilled or good enough to teach the subject
srinisanzo:
the also work only for money not to make them a knowledgable person
fritzakarlo:
but theres a differnce between water in the ocean and me, writing with you, thousands of miles away
srinisanzo:
ok
fritzakarlo:
yes teachers often can't transport the magic of smoething
fritzakarlo:
and i think most subejct do have this magic
fritzakarlo:
but its getting killed in endless, not motivated explanations
srinisanzo:
ya what u say now is correct
fritzakarlo:
what was the beginning of life like, in the microbiologic meanig?
fritzakarlo:
can you tell me about it?
srinisanzo:
and lot of lecture dont realise that
srinisanzo:
and they choose particular type of student
srinisanzo:
and hang with that them
fritzakarlo:
what is school like in india?
fritzakarlo:
i mean how many people in one group teached an so on?
srinisanzo:
whats up
srinisanzo:
r u there
fritzakarlo:
yes
fritzakarlo:
didn't you got ma mails
srinisanzo:
no in which msg u send the mail
srinisanzo:
i dint saw any mail
srinisanzo:
did u send it in bearshare
fritzakarlo:
i just asked what shool is like in india
fritzakarlo:
how many students i a class for example
srinisanzo:
it depends up on the school
srinisanzo:
and the class they studied
fritzakarlo:
on which school have you been?
srinisanzo:
i ve finished my schoolings
srinisanzo:
i ve studied in betheal
fritzakarlo:
i've one year left
fritzakarlo:
untill i get my abitur, thats what you get when you finish school
fritzakarlo:
with the marks in the abitur you have to go to an university and if youre good enough you can study there
fritzakarlo:
and if you got enugh money
srinisanzo:
ya what u say is true
srinisanzo:
and bc of the same thing i ve taken this group
srinisanzo:
money is important now a days
srinisanzo:
but i dont like why world is going behing money
srinisanzo:
bc of this money ]
srinisanzo:
in todays world love dosent exist
srinisanzo:
every this is change into money
srinisanzo:
even if u want to marry the one u love u need money
srinisanzo:
if u want to get divorce from her u need money
srinisanzo:
to give birth to baby u need money
srinisanzo:
it really sucks
srinisanzo:
only we humans live like this
srinisanzo:
and i feel it better to be born like a animal instead of humans
srinisanzo:
and i also knw only humans r destroying himself and mother nature
srinisanzo:
and not the animals
fritzakarlo:
i think this fact is kind of bizarr beacuse religion (i think every), social justice and at least the character of democracy doesn't thin kthis way, or should'nt think this way, but they do
fritzakarlo:
in the religion whichh is very popular here in germany, they say they want to live like jesus christ, but he was poor, didn't give a damn about money, he wanted to bring love and was shure that love can only come from love, one of the most important things n the bible is love, but this people who pretend to believe in jesus, in reality they don't
fritzakarlo:
maybe they can't understand
srinisanzo:
ur wrong
srinisanzo:
they can understand
srinisanzo:
but they dont want to follow
srinisanzo:
how can u expect them that these people cant understand
srinisanzo:
then what is the purpose of they all having this sixth sence
srinisanzo:
only bc of this sixth sence we become so much evil
fritzakarlo:
thats an very interesting point, but don't you think that the ones who started this sixth sense wanted to create something helpfull and bright, like jesus buddha, shiva and so on?
fritzakarlo:
i mean the figueres
fritzakarlo:
i don't think that they really existed as it is told
srinisanzo:
what is the use
srinisanzo:
bc of this jesus buddha and shive
srinisanzo:
shiva
srinisanzo:
we lost of peace
srinisanzo:
and started war
srinisanzo:
so every invention of man leads to destruction
fritzakarlo:
don't understand me wrong iam not religious, but i think jesus for examples was apeacefull man
fritzakarlo:
yes but thats what modern people made of it
srinisanzo:
ur talking abt the period were jesus exist
fritzakarlo:
terror in the name of the religions
srinisanzo:
but i am talking abt the period we live now
srinisanzo:
ya wat u say is true
fritzakarlo:
yes thats true, youre right, i think we mean the same thing
srinisanzo:
ye
srinisanzo:
yes
fritzakarlo:
today religion is more brutal and killing than helpfull oder peacebringing
srinisanzo:
yes
srinisanzo:
and here most of the holy person do many shit things
srinisanzo:
they use to rape so many girls
srinisanzo:
only people like this doing these
srinisanzo:
and they r telling its not my wish its god wish
fritzakarlo:
i just wanted to underline that this result is not a fault in the religios as itself, its a fatal error in the modern human
srinisanzo:
do u thing we r humans anymore
srinisanzo:
no i dont think so
srinisanzo:
bc we become like a machine
srinisanzo:
only the person who exist with nature i called humans
fritzakarlo:
i dont mind what you call it but there a difference between modern human and the human 1000 years ago
srinisanzo:
bc we all r against nature in one way or other
fritzakarlo:
or 2000
srinisanzo:
ya ur right
srinisanzo:
and do u knw what is the reason for all these
srinisanzo:
it bc of education
srinisanzo:
now a days even education is leads to think in a destructive way
srinisanzo:
its not helping mankind
fritzakarlo:
i agree with you that we destroy one part of the definition of human but where was the point from which on everything went wrong? i meant when did we decide?
srinisanzo:
in some way we r still human bc of the existance of love with in us
srinisanzo:
if that too gone from us
srinisanzo:
then we no more act like humans
fritzakarlo:
its getting lost
fritzakarlo:
i think
fritzakarlo:
money replaces it
srinisanzo:
and also sex
srinisanzo:
sex replace love a lot
srinisanzo:
lot of people dont kwn what is sex and love
fritzakarlo:
but mney is hardly connected with sex
fritzakarlo:
money
srinisanzo:
ya thats for people who live in high society
srinisanzo:
they share sex for money
srinisanzo:
and people like other started business with sex
srinisanzo:
i think sex and money are interlinked to each other
srinisanzo:
some thing like mutual beneficial
fritzakarlo:
yesterday i saw a advertisement in tv, there was a bot floating on a huge lake, beautiful light and 2 beautiful people in the boat, muscelman and sexygirl, they din't talk, they just kiss and he touched her breasts, befor it was going more intim they showed the boat from very high, i mean from a helicopter or something, the whole lake with the boat in the middle
fritzakarlo:
it was an add for a parfume
fritzakarlo:
called love
fritzakarlo:
"love"
fritzakarlo:
i don't think love is like touching the breasts of a woman in a boat on a beautiful lake
fritzakarlo:
without talking
fritzakarlo:
without laughing
fritzakarlo:
thats what people think about love i think
fritzakarlo:
its a physical thing based on emotions
fritzakarlo:
but its more an emotional thing based on physical
srinisanzo:
ya love is nothing but emotion
srinisanzo:
ya to expresss that emotion we use physical action
fritzakarlo:
yes right
srinisanzo:
but in todays world there is no love
srinisanzo:
means only they r going for physical pleasure with out love
fritzakarlo:
no there is love for the purpose of sex
srinisanzo:
and bc of that many ends with their relationship
fritzakarlo:
exactly
srinisanzo:
ya i can understand what u say
srinisanzo:
for me
srinisanzo:
sex is some thing unique which can be shared with the one we love deeply
fritzakarlo:
what time is it in india now?
srinisanzo:
not from the body or not from the heart
srinisanzo:
but from the soul
fritzakarlo:
yes
fritzakarlo:
maybe we lost our souls
fritzakarlo:
sos
fritzakarlo:

srinisanzo:
its abt 3.15 pm now
srinisanzo:
the reason why i say love it comes from soul means
srinisanzo:
many of them use to die for this love
srinisanzo:
sucide
srinisanzo:
and thats why i think love comes from the soul
srinisanzo:
what i meant here is true love not lust
srinisanzo:
what is the time now over there
fritzakarlo:
you're right, do you think true love can link to suicide as well?
srinisanzo:
yes ofcouse
srinisanzo:
i belive love is the cause of both creation and destruction
srinisanzo:
but the situation differ
srinisanzo:
love is creative when u get it back from the one u love
srinisanzo:
but its destructive when u dosent get it back from the one u love
srinisanzo:
we feel pain in our life bc of love
srinisanzo:
if we dont love some thing then why should we going to feel the pain for that thing
fritzakarlo:
yes but isn't money than the only thing that decides between creative and destructive today?
srinisanzo:
its not money
srinisanzo:
its called our desire
srinisanzo:
bc of our cheap desire for money we do this
srinisanzo:
but there r some people still exist in this world with other desire like love and peace
fritzakarlo:
do you know marilyn manson?
fritzakarlo:
or marylin i dont know exactly
srinisanzo:
no i dont knw abt him
fritzakarlo:
hes an american singer, who likes to provocate, i dont really like his music but he said a very true comment
fritzakarlo:
an interviewer asked him why young people are afraid of love
fritzakarlo:
and he replied:
fritzakarlo:
"it's beacuse of the media, they say, buy this shampoo, because if you don't have it, you'll look ugly, and when you look ugly no one likes you, and if no one likes you, the girl you like, doesn't like you to and you'll never be in true love girl"
fritzakarlo:
i think thats the exact connection between money and love
srinisanzo:
if the person believe in this the he is a real fool
srinisanzo:
one should knw the concept of male and female
srinisanzo:
female is the creation of beauty
srinisanzo:
and man is the creation of logo
fritzakarlo:
whats logo?
srinisanzo:
male use to c the beauty in the female and female use to c the logo means character in male
srinisanzo:
life is like magnetism
srinisanzo:
and also love
srinisanzo:
if beauty and logo unite together peace will arise
srinisanzo:
if logo and logo and beauty and beauty unite together then again one search for antoher
srinisanzo:
bc in this case still one thing is missing from both the couple
fritzakarlo:
do you think the world is in balance because every thesis has an antithesis?
fritzakarlo:
like magnetism?
srinisanzo:
if u ask me i ll say yes
srinisanzo:
and do u kwn why this killling and war happens in now a days more
fritzakarlo:
balance danger?
srinisanzo:
no balance is needed
srinisanzo:
c i think today war and terror happen bc of us
srinisanzo:
in todays world we reach the rate of birth higher and rate of death is decreased in natural way
srinisanzo:
bc of so many invention and discoveries in medicine
fritzakarlo:
yes
srinisanzo:
if we r going to find new medicine for all kind of disease and keep on saving all kind of people then what will happen
srinisanzo:
no death rate only birth rate
srinisanzo:
and this leads to population explosion
srinisanzo:
so if ur not going to die natrually then u have to suffer the pain around u
srinisanzo:
now a days people wont accept even the death occur naturally
fritzakarlo:
that sound logical but that includes, that death is pain
srinisanzo:
if u get heart attack ur going for bypass surgery
srinisanzo:
death is natrual
srinisanzo:
its not pain
fritzakarlo:
so why do we have to suffer here, when we don't die
fritzakarlo:
when death is no pain, no suffering, it doesn't have be balanced with it
fritzakarlo:
you understand what i mean?
srinisanzo:
whats up why u dont want to continue with that topic
srinisanzo:
if that so ok
srinisanzo:
in india schooling is very bad
srinisanzo:
its only money yearning company now a days
srinisanzo:
its not a place where good education come from
fritzakarlo:
do firm control school?
srinisanzo:
in india in many school they r getting the money and they are instructing the parent to teach the childrens
srinisanzo:
they ask the students to study in home and then only he can pass in exam
srinisanzo:
i wonder what they do in shcool
srinisanzo:
and in some of the school parent have to write exam to get admission in that school
srinisanzo:
its reallly sucks
srinisanzo:
what ever i learn is also no use
srinisanzo:
i cant help people with what i studied
srinisanzo:
i cant even apply in my day today life
srinisanzo:
then what is the purpouse of studying
srinisanzo:
i am tired of this studying
fritzakarlo:
whatws the purpose of science?
fritzakarlo:
i asked that question to my maths teacher
srinisanzo:
bc we study to get pass in exam now a days
srinisanzo:
so what ur teacher said
fritzakarlo:
he said "well, thats not important they exist and educated people have know about them!"
fritzakarlo:
isnt it empty word bubble making?
fritzakarlo:
no sense, no content
fritzakarlo:
they exist because they exist
fritzakarlo:
the purpose of math is to know about them
fritzakarlo:
i can't believe in that
srinisanzo:
me too
srinisanzo:
u knw what
fritzakarlo:
what?
srinisanzo:
the one we r telling lion and tiger and so on
srinisanzo:
they dosent knw that they r lion and tigr
srinisanzo:
tiger
srinisanzo:
bc we named them and call them lion and tiger
fritzakarlo:
yes thats so true
fritzakarlo:
and the shark doesn't know that hes more evil than the clownfish
srinisanzo:
yes
fritzakarlo:
he knows less but who is more intelligent?
fritzakarlo:
me or the shark?
srinisanzo:
none of u intelligent and none of u was dump
srinisanzo:
bc u lack the quality of shark
srinisanzo:
and shark lacks the quality of urs
fritzakarlo:
yes you're right
srinisanzo:
u can have the ability to kill the shark
srinisanzo:
but when u left alone with shark it will kill u
srinisanzo:
so who is intellligent now
fritzakarlo:
me and a freind of mine ones discussed about the question if it its theoretically possible, that a object exisits, which knows everything
fritzakarlo:
the only inteligent thing
fritzakarlo:
he who knows everything is intelligent
fritzakarlo:
but i think thats impossible
srinisanzo:
no its possible
srinisanzo:
and they r exist
srinisanzo:
do u knw where the intelligent people r exist in the world
fritzakarlo:
but this obect includes infinity
fritzakarlo:
no i donÄt
srinisanzo:
they live in Amazon forest they r intelligent
srinisanzo:
they live for basic needs
srinisanzo:
food , cloth and place
fritzakarlo:
do they love?
srinisanzo:
we live for that same but we suffer a lot
srinisanzo:
if they dont love
srinisanzo:
they cant exist with their family
srinisanzo:
now tel me what is the purpose of knowing everything
fritzakarlo:
it has no purpose,its just the only form of beeing intelligent, i mean intelligence is an absolut thing, you are intelligent or you're not, so when are you intelligent? you are intelligent when you know everything you need
fritzakarlo:
the amazonas people are intelligent
fritzakarlo:
iam not
srinisanzo:
the thing is i dont belive in intelligent
srinisanzo:
bc everything cannot knw by every one
fritzakarlo:
right
srinisanzo:
the fact u knw that may be i dont knw
fritzakarlo:
that what i got to know after the discussion with that freind of mine
srinisanzo:
the fact that i knw may be u dont knw
fritzakarlo:
and especially the thing are no facts
srinisanzo:
yes
srinisanzo:
and tel me do u good in cooking
fritzakarlo:
do i love him oder her?
fritzakarlo:
oder something
fritzakarlo:
me good in cooking?
srinisanzo:
ok
srinisanzo:
now tel me which dish u cook nice and delishouly
srinisanzo:
i mean which food u cook nice and delicious
fritzakarlo:
well iam not that good in cooking but i guess my lasagne is tasty
fritzakarlo:
italian pasta food
srinisanzo:
ok now if Sir Isac Newton is alive and if i ask him to cook better than u do u think he can win u
srinisanzo:
i dont think so
fritzakarlo:
of course not
srinisanzo:
yes all he knows abt physics and other things
srinisanzo:
that too in physics he explained abt few things
srinisanzo:
and rest of the others r explained by other people
srinisanzo:
its not mean he is not intelligent bc he fail to beat u
srinisanzo:
in cooking
srinisanzo:
even the great sir isac newton cant beat u
fritzakarlo:
yes ur absolutly right, and if you want to know everything you must be something unlimited
srinisanzo:
yes
srinisanzo:
but accroding to me
srinisanzo:
life is a learning process
fritzakarlo:
and there is nothing unlimited
fritzakarlo:
maybe yes!
srinisanzo:
learn whatever ur facing in ur life
srinisanzo:
and dont think that we r good or we r bad from others
srinisanzo:
we all have our own quality
srinisanzo:
and thats why we all look unique
fritzakarlo:
thats right and i think thats good ending for this beautiful chat
fritzakarlo:
i think i'll make me some lasagne!
fritzakarlo:
iam hungry, maybe that helps against my stomach hurt
srinisanzo:
ya if u think so
srinisanzo:
and do u use to chat in yahoo
srinisanzo:
and do u have id on yahoo
fritzakarlo:
no no one of my friends uses it i chat with icq and msn
fritzakarlo:
you know it?
srinisanzo:
no i dont knw abt that
fritzakarlo:
these are like yahoo but msn is from microsoft and icq i don't know but they are bth similar to yahoo
srinisanzo:
if u like u can instal yahoo on ur pc bc i can even talk with u
srinisanzo:
no in yahoo
srinisanzo:
now i am in offline in yahoo
fritzakarlo:
i will try to, where can i get it?
srinisanzo:
i am not compelling u its a favour that i am asking u
srinisanzo:
if u like u can install yahoo and u can chat with me
srinisanzo:
if u dont like ok
fritzakarlo:
i really like to
srinisanzo:
bc i use to do things only i like and i think everybody is like that
srinisanzo:
so when u ll be here again
srinisanzo:
and what is the time now ther
fritzakarlo:
its nearly 1 pm
srinisanzo:
and u dint say ur name my friend
fritzakarlo:
time for lunch
fritzakarlo:
jannek
fritzakarlo:
is my name
srinisanzo:
if ur here u can leave the msg for last two 2 thing that i asken to u
srinisanzo:
bye and take care
srinisanzo:
just type it in english
fritzakarlo:
right, take care and keep on beeing what i think you are1
srinisanzo:
u dint finish the sentence
srinisanzo:
its incomplete
fritzakarlo:
which one?
srinisanzo:
what is that mean what i think u are 1
srinisanzo:
i cant understand
fritzakarlo:
the 1 is the same button as the ! on a german keyboard, i wanted to say that you should try to keep on beeing what you are, or what i think you are!
srinisanzo:
ok
fritzakarlo:
right

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